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Have you ever been in a situation where you thought you might die? What led up to it and what happened? | One of the situations I was in I didn't have time to think anything. I heard punches being thrown/connected and thought we had an inmate fight going on. I turn the corner and there was an officer seated in a covering his head with an inmate over them throwing punches. Me and another officer got there and dove on the inmate and got him restrained. What if he had a shank and was doing the same thing? It didn't even occur to me at the time. |
Do inmates try to bribe you? How do you handle it without ruining any good will you may have between you and the inmate? | I myself have never been approached. They are pretty good at reading people and to do that cold without building some kind of rapport with their target could land them in all sorts of shit. I have had coworkers tell me how they have been propositioned with offers of that kind of shit. I'm not for sale. Once you agree to that the inmate has power over you... You'll keep doing whatever he wants and he'll just snitch when it's no longer a good deal for him. He'll get transferred and you'll be fired if not worse. |
Do inmates hold grudges against the COs who confiscate their contraband? Is there any contraband (like say, a picture ripped out of a playboy magazije) you look the other way about so you can focus more on the stuff like weapons, drugs, etc? | I treat it like business and I haven't had too many issues with people holding grudges when I take shit from them or put them in confinement. They know the deal. |
Is gang activity a significant issue at your prison? How do you guys handle that if so? | Gangs are all around where I work. They gamble in their commissary goods and deal in the stuff they can get smuggled in (lots of tobacco, lots of K2, cell phones). We do our best to combat it on the way in but it feels like a losing battle at times. |
K2? | Synthetic cannabinoid. |
Smoke weed... I have seen people do crazy shit and have fucked up reactions to K2. I responded to an inmate that got REALLY high, had a seizure, and vomited all over himself and then flopped around in it. | |
I had to help carry this dude down the steps too... In my dress uniform. | |
Do you get along well with inmates? Do you treat some better than others? | I feel like I get along with them. The whole job is learning how to talk to people. If you can speak to someone and have some level of respect then it's not too difficult. As a rule, I treat them all the same. You NEVER ask about their charges because you'll naturally treat a rapist differently than the burglar and the addict. |
What made you chose to become a State Corrections Officer rather than Police officer or Deputy? | My Father was a NYC Correctional Officer for 2 years before he became a NYC Police Officer for 21 years. Two of my uncles on my mothers side were NYPD detectives. |
What is the most rewarding part of your job? | The most rewarding? I love my shift. We really operate as a team and look out for one another. It really feels like family. Just shooting the shit from time to time at shift change and feeling accepted by them. I can deal with all the morons the state can send me but I needed the team aspect. |
Do nice guys finish last in jail (both on the inmate and the officer side of things)?? What I mean is... I imagine that inmates are constantly looking for any weakness so is giving them much of any latitude going to be beneficial? | Yes, it's a game for them. I have an example, |
If the dorm is released for evening meal and is returning you have to pop the exterior doors for them. If an inmate comes to the flap at that moment and asks for paperwork (they are allowed to do that) He is fucking with you. He knows that you are busy with 200+ inmates coming back to the dorm. | |
I'm more than happy to give them what they are entitled to but I'm not dropping everything at their whim. They love getting you to run around for them. | |
Do you ever see similar qualities of yourself in the prisoners? If so, does that frighten you? | My shit talk game has gotten exponentially better... I think there is some truth to that though. I'm around them for 12 hours at a time so it would only be natural. |
I also feel like I keep my house and common areas cleaner as a result of being around them and their quarters. You realize how filthy people can be and and feels like it's worse on the inside. I've had to inventory property COVERED in roaches before. | |
Do you think prisons actually rehabilitate people? | To an extent... |
A lot of these young inmates are done for. They fucked up and caught some prison time and now they are around other hardened criminals and have nothing but time together to perfect their craft. | |
Some people aren't THAT bad and just fuck up. Prison is a controlled environment that is easy to hate so the incentive is to not fuck up and come back. | |
If you could add/remove functions from your job, what would they be? | It's a tough but necessary job. The functions of it are changing a litte but they will always be pretty much the same. Maintain care, custody and control over inmates in state custody. |
DOCs around the country are trying to get into more reentry stuff but I'm not a job counselor. At the end of the day I'm a goon and a turnkey. There is only so much I can do. | |
Do you, personally, agree with marijuana possession being a criminal act, and if not, how do you justify dehumanizing someone that isn't doing something you believe to be wrong? | There are a lot of people that fuck up with drugs and get into situations where they catch state time. I don't ask what their charges are, nor do I care. |
I know 2 inmates that work for me as orderlies. One caught 30 years for trafficking in MDMA and the other caught 30 years when he executed another gang member in a drug deal gone south. That doesn't seem fair to me but I still do my job just the same. | |
If you could change any specific law to improve the quality of life in prison, and to improve the quality of life outside of prison, what would it be? | I make sure they have what they NEED and what they are entitled to. It's sparse living but I'm not torturing anyone. They have access to medical care/mental health, dentistry, they get 3 hots and a bed. |
Our medical dept sucks ass. They somehow took the state run medical dept and privatized it and made it even worse. They are going to end up going back to the state at some point. | |
What are your feelings about the lack of seriousness in addressing mental health issues of inmates? Common says that left unaddressed, these people are just more dangerous when they get out when they went in. Why isn't it properly addressed? Edit: "Common sense." Forgot the second word there. | I think it stinks for the ones that are actually sick. I see a lot that are playing the system though. I wish there more state hospitals to put them in but they did away with those in the 80s. It would be good change though. |
What prison gangs are big in your state outside of the usual national syndicates? | We have lots of the "big" name security threat groups or STGs. Bloods, Crips and all the sub sects therein that war against each other, Latin kings are populous where I work, Aryan brotherhood, I have seen a few juggalos and read their kites, zoe pound, some that claim to be MS13 but don't back it up. |
We have a little bit of everything. | |
I'm confused, is "Read their kites" a gang or slang? | Kite is a written message that is usually passed hand to hand. |
Was the academy hard? What is it like? Do you think it probably would be the same as the police academy? | Our academy wasn't that bad. I used to be a big fat fatty and lost about 100 pounds in a year. Running has never been my strong suite but I was still middle of the pack. |
The academics weren't that bad. I have some college and wasn't in classes all that long ago. Some people had been out of school for 30 years or more. | |
Hey, thanks for doing this AMA! Strange question, but how common would you say suicide is within correctional institutions? Also, have you ever heard of any inmates hanging themselves in the shower? Edit: wording. | We receive the inmates that do suicidual gestures from other camps. Not all are set up for that kind of supervision. It does happen and the truth is that if they WANT to do they have plenty of time to get it done. We do wellness checks every 20 minutes in that dorm. It's our job to try and prevent that while they are under care of a doctopsychiatrist or the like. |
If the prisoners are misbehaving, do you take them to a special room where there are no cameras and politely inform them of their errors? | Back in the day the camp I work at was where they sent every jackass in the state... The WHOLE state. They would have planned OC spraying after OC spraying. That doesn't happen anymore since we have gone open population. |
We have less jackasses now so there is little to no need for that kind of "counseling" | |
What is the most vile thing you have witnessed while on the job? I can only imagine what inmates or parolees do behind closed doors. | Openly masturbating at female staff/nurses, we call it "gunning". |
I hate gunners more than your worst pedophile/rapist. I have model inmates that are well behaved who are in for some horrendous shit but the short timer who is going to disrespect us and tell and show us like that? It burns my ass. | |
We called it that at one of the joints I worked at! I had to write too many dick tickets. | The old 1-6 charge. |
They can technically catch outside charges and have to register as a sex offender but the state never follows though. | |
You can technically catch charges for manhandling an inmate with excessive force but NEVER EVER DO. Inmates are treated like fucking animals in every prison and jail in the country, some dude jerking off in public has mental problems and is acting out. That's what happens when you cage humans. | Keep making excuses for inexcusable behaviour... Troll on. |
How would you feel if that was your sister or your mother working as a nurse to help these types and they are treated like that? |
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Do you wear or have you ever worn the ICP clown makeup? If so, would you wear it casually in everyday life or was it more of an "I'm going to an ICP show so I have to look my juggalo-ist!" sort of thing? | No I would never wear it in public, thats one of those misconcerptions about us, the only ICP fans (Im not going to use Juggalo to descibe them) that wear makeup in public are looking for the attention. At the Gathering (were EVERYONE is a juggalo) I wore a clown Luchador mask, but everyone paints there face there. The thing about the makeup is that it makes us all the same, when I was there I was camped next to this guy who I became friends with, and he always wore the paint, and I never thought anything of it, and when we shut down and went home, he took it off, and I realized he had sever burns across the whole right side of his face, but with the makeup on, everyone treated him like anyone else, and I realized this was probably the only time a year he gets treated like everyone else, and it made me happy that being a juggalo could do that for him. |
Probably the best juggalo story there is. | You would be shocked at how common those are, there are alot of people with physical deformities there, and they just either cover it up with face paint, or just go out loud and proud, juggalos couldnt give a shit. Its one of the reasons I will claim Juggalo till I die. In the normal world people treat them like freak shows, but they juggalos couldnt give a fuck, either your cool or your not, thats all we see. |
That's really awesome, seriously. I think the most fascinating thing about juggalos is how you guys manage to function as a rational, accepting subculture as opposed to the rabid fanbase the casual observer might assume you are at first. Much respect from me. | Thank you. Its just like any other group, most of us are calm rational normal people, but there are a few who want to yell and make a scene and make the rest look bad. |
I wear makeup to some shows but not all of them. I have my own custom design that incorporates a tribute to my juggalo homie I miss. I am not the best makeup artist though because I don't really even wear regular makeup everyday, its not that great for your skin. | Ive heard that about your skin, but I dont do it because grease paint in your eyes burns like a motherfucker. It makes me laugh when I go into the bathrooms at shows and there are guys doing each others makeup in front of the mirror. |
Dear Reddit, OP responds to question with pertinent and respectful answer - Gets downvoted. WE ARE BETTER THAN THAT! | Honestly, I am suprised at how cool everyone has been, I never expected it to go this well. |
Hi there and thanks for doing this AMA. I have 2 questions. First, how many women have you slept with in your career? And second, what did you think of Rob Schneider's portrayal in Deuce Bigalow? Thanks and good luck. | Me? IDK, dont feel like tryin to remember, I usually go with more than 10 and less than 20, but thats not a juggalo thing, I have never dated a juggalette, actually most girls Ive been with have really disliked that I was a juggalo. |
I dont remember that part, I saw that movie before I got down. To be honest though, the Workaholics episode was a pretty decent one, up until the end at least. | |
What the fuck are you talking about? | Did I miss the point of that question? Now I feel stupid. |
Gigolo =/= Juggalo. | Got you, I forget people that arent familiar with Juggalos always make that assumtion. |
It was actually a joke. He pretended you said Gigolo instead of Juggalo. | You say it was a joke, but you would be suprised how many people pull out the wallet when you say you are a juggalo. |
That easy huh? | To be a gigolo? If your willing to blow guys, Im pretty sure it is. |
DISLAIMER; I am not a gigolo and am not qualified to give any gigolo related advice. Basically this comment is inadmissable in court. | |
How easy is it to get laid at The Gathering? | OK... One by one... |
What the hell was with that video asking how magnets work? | I have no idea, people walk around with signs saying "wanna fuck?" but I wasnt looking at the time, so I dont know, but I hear its not hard. But be carefull, juggalettes go SUPER hard. |
I mean, it made juggalos look like stone cold morons - can you explain what they were trying to do with that? | I LOVE faygo, but it is SUPER bad for you, so I only drink it occasionally, if you see some grab a bottle, it really is delicious. |
Do you actually like Faygo? | About 10 years now. |
How long have you been a juggalo? | My dad hated it forever, and the one time he tried to be supportive and listen to it he picked THE WORST CD (Axe Murder Boyz, theyre terrible) but now that I'm successfull he could give a shit (unless I get hounded by the cops, then he tells me "what did you expect"). Both my brothers are "down" but there not juggalos per sey. My sister and step mom dont really think anything of it, its just some music I like. |
What does your family think of this? | Its not even the music or the makeup, ICP loves to say that liking the music has nothing to do it it. I have a friend who HATES ICP, but hes down to the ground. Its all about having each others back, the world is a cold hate filled place, and its nice to know that we have someone who loves us no matter where we go. Thats really what being a juggalo is about, if you love other juggalos, you are a juggalo. |
What, actually, is it that makes juggalos different, aside from liking the music and dressing like clowns? | EDIT: Forgot about the Magnet one. I dont speak for all juggalos, but me and my crew think that song is dumb as fuck as well. The point of the song was that "miracles are all around us" and they used magnets as one of those things that are like magic because they dont understand them, honestly I dont understand why THAT was the one that took off in meme form, i believe they also ask what a rainbow is, and "why do my his kids look just like shaggy and my little kids look just like daddy?" (not sure if thats the exact quote). We know how genetics and refracted light work. |
You forgot the one where he feeds a fish to a pelican. Link to static.fjcdn.com. | And it tried to eat his phone, right? That song is proof that people who wrestles take their music seriously are missing the point somewhere. |
At some point do you feel that you will outgrow this music? By having such a feverish devotion to a musical act don't you feel that you are missing out on at least some aspects of life? | Not at all, once I got into adulthood I listened to ICP less and less, and I only listen to them a few times a month now, but it is such a huge part of who I was growing up, the term Juggalo has way outlasted the music. Growing up I moved alot and caught alot of shit from people at new schools, and there was always juggalos to have my back, so I owe them alot, and I feel its my responibitly to look out for the younger generation the way the juggalos looked out for me when I was young, broke and lonely. |
What music do you listen to now? | Country, classic rock, quite a bit of rap, folk, I still listen to psycopathic quite often, mostly when Im in my roomates car. |
Should have gotten a fucking skateboard. Side note: you ever been to nelson ledges? You people would come and completely disrespect the land and the people. We eventually started to turn the gathering away. | Nelson Ledge? Is that Garettsville, OH? I didnt make that gathering, but what all happened? I know that we have a tendancy to leave a mess (we pay people to clean up the campgrounds) but as far as disrespect, I would hope they would be better than that (although it wouldn't suprise me if you ran into one who wasnt). We try and be respectfull to people when we roll into their town, thats your territory, and you are letting us in. I do know that we are not doing it again in Garrettsville though, and I know its because the towns people we not real happy, but I havent heard alot of stories about disrespect (not saying I dont believe they happened). |
I may go through phases where I get into other types of music more, but I'm always going to bang it because at this point I consider being a juggalo an immutable part of who I am. | Exactly, I'm suprised noone has asked if I listen to other music, because I think it would trip people out the music juggalos ACTUALLY listen to. |
So, tell me, what music do juggalos ACTUALLY listen to. | Haha, everything. On this I definitly cant speak for everyone, but ME PERSONALLY, I listen to all kinds of shit, being from Texas I love me some country after a few drinks (Lyle Lovett, Johnny Cash, Merle Hagard, even some John Denver). Classic rock (Led Zepplin, Beatles, The Who) and old school rap (Wu-Tang Clan, Biggie, NWA), folk (Bob Dylan is my favorite musician ever), I also listen to more recent shit like Black Keys and Lil Wayne. The only STEREOTYPE for juggalo music would be early 90s rap, a lot of our slang and saying are old school slag ("thats fresh/stale" "word is bond" "flipped my wig"). I saw Busta Rymes, Ice Cube, and MC Hammer at the gathering, there was many more, but those were the best. |
It just always makes me laugh when Im all juggalo'd out (hatchet hat on tilt, Twiztid jeresy) and someone looks at me as Im rollin blaring "Thank God Im a Country Boy" out of the car. Also vice versa, when I have on my justins (boots), my stedson (a kind of cowboy hat), and wranglers, and Im rolling around with "Juggalo Homies" coming out the trunk. | |
On the juggalo reddit there's a feature called metal for juggalos, so I think its pretty safe to say that a lot of juggalos would cross over that way as well. | |
Ok, there were a lot of lifted riffs from blues even if they made them all around heaviebettedifferent/tighter. Their sources weren't well cited enough for my taste still. | I may make jokes about ICP, but talking shit about Led Zeppelin is BLASPHAMY! HAHA. I know what you mean though. You really have to listen to blues along side Zepplin to fully understand it. |
Why are people downvoting this guy? Hes trying to enlighten people who hate juggalos and don't know there side of the story. As for you Mr. Juggalo, keep on enlightening these people, show them that everyone ain't so bad. | Thank you. I expected plenty of downvotes, but Reddit continues to amaze me with there civility. I have managed to break even on karma, and I didnt do this for the upvotes, I just see all the memes and videos, and I feel like that is the smallest (and worst) part of the story, wanted to have a decently normal juggalo have a chance to plead his case. |
So basically juggalos are big fans of ICP? I think people consider all sides of the story, no matter how much you disagree with it. | Thats what most people associate us with, but listening to ICP doesnt make you a juggalo. Just as not liking ICP doesn't disqualify you. Also there are a lot of other juggalo bands out there. Zug Izland is a rock band, Boondox is a redneck, Blaze is an old school gangster. Theres different music for different types, and if you don't like any of the music, you can still come. Generally ICP is the band most people associate with us though, because they're the most famous. |
So how does one become a juggalo? | Just "be down with me, and I'll be down back" as Shaggy said. As juggalos say "Have my neck and Ive got yours". I really cant think of a better example. All you need to do is love fellow juggalos, and be willing to shake off a lot of hate. |
Why is it then that most Juggalos hate gay people and that ICP lyrics have so music homophobia in them? | ICP doesnt hate gay people. At least not as far as I know, they say "fag" in some of their songs, but I think thats just how they talk, I dont think they mean to hold anyone down. |
Sounds like a cult. | It would be very cult like if we had a leader. Every Juggalo is their own person, we don't "recive orders" which seems to be how people think it works. |
Maybe if we all started thinking like juggalos, the world would be a better place. Thanks for explaining to me man! | Yea, its kind of a hippie/rave mentality (dont tell the other juggalos I compared us to hippies) but we love to get drunk and scream obscenities, but deep down its the same. We love each other, and if the world saw each other as on big family, it would be a better place. |
How many drugs have you done? | Haha, to be completely honest, Ive tried them all, and I was addicted to meth and heroin (at seperate times), but I am clean and sober now, I drink still, but Ive even quit weed. |
A juggalo addicted to meth and heroin.. Shocker. | Im clean now, but Im not going to hate, its a stereotype for a reason. |
Whats your favorite? | My favorite what? |
All trolling aside, I'm glad you got clean. | Its all good, AMA stands for "ask me ANYTHING" so no worries. Im actually supried how little trolling there has been. |
Drug? | Ha, I just drink now, so Im not going to make any recommendations, but I will say Heroin was my favorite, but its also the best at stealing your soul. |
I kinda have this thought that heroin IS like a soul and it just collects fragments from every person it "takes"... | I like that, use it enough, and its a person just like anyone else you know. |
Did you know it is supposedly a Christian movement, of sorts, and if not how did you feel when that fact came to light? | I did know that, and I was not real happy at the time, but I feel like they tried to go that way a bit to balance out some of the straight up evil things they used to say back in the begining. Alot of juggalos left once that album dropped, but then alot of them adopted the juggalo faith as there religion after that (faciciously, like the Flying Spagetti Monester) because from some reason theist cant accept atheists as anything more than amoral hooligans, but if you tell them you believe in a "great dark carnival" in the sky that is against fucking kids and hitting women and being a racist, they are ok with that. I guess its because they say "at least he has SOME morals". |
How do you feel about the music that ICP put out that perpetuates violence and bigotry? Did you ever feel drawn in by that or feel that was the norm? What are some of the more realistic stereotypes that the public has about Juggalos? | Ok, Im going to drop this bomb again (I had no idea people thought we were racist). Bigotry is one of a very few things that are NOT alowed in juggaloism ("We forgot mister bigot, but can you dig it, got our illusions all packed, but well still cut his neck up). There are plently of juggalos of many races. Racists are one of the people who will be taken out when the carnival comes along with pedophiles and wife beaters. |
As far as the violence, the violence is generally committed against those people (racist, pedos, womanizers, check out "The Catch A Predator), so it's not as bad as you thing. Would you feel bad listening to a song about killing a pedophile? | |
I really have a very skewed vision of the Juggalo community. My neighbor was a very open Juggalo and he was arrested for domestic violence multiple times and I guess paired with the media clips of songs, it gave me the view of the loud minority. | Oh sorry. In general, saying super violent things is the norm, but meaning them is not. I think one of the reason that that keeps up is because when your a kid in high school getting picked on and jumped after school, you like that people think you have a potential for violence. As far as stereotype, the only one I know of is that we drink to much and get to loud. I dont really know what the stereotypes are except that we are all stuipd and in 8th grade (both wrong). Someone said they heard we were racists (also not true). If you have any other stereotypes I will try to confirm/deny them. |
Also. You only answered one of my questions. | As for your neighbor, he sounds like a proper cunt, and he is the kind of person we try and distance ourselves from whenever possible. If his story went public and he went to juggalos to protect him, it wouldnt end well for him. |
ICP seems like a band back in the 80's called SOD. SOD meant Stormtroopers of Death and their songs were openly racist. What non fans didn't realize is that they weren't serious and they were just making fun of racists through satire. They're also the ones who made the word 'mosh' famous. | Really (about the mosh thing, TIL)? I feel like I have heard of them before. But we never joke about racism, racist "get they throat cut". Racism is 100% NOT ok in the juggalo culture. Its about the worst sin a juggalo can commit (next to pedophilla, and hitting women) |
Give us your honest opinion of the average juggalo. ignorant rednecks or is there more to it than that? | As a general rule, juggalos hate rednecks "Fuck Your Rebel Flag", "Chicken Hunting" (Chicken is juggalo for redneck "chicken fuckers", the drunken ones who "beat they wives and fuck they kids") but most REAL juggalos (once the intial excitement about becoming part of it wears off) are just normal people, I run into juggalos proffesionally occasionally, once at work I got hella praise because I got a lawyer to come over to our team, and noone else could, but I could never tell anyone it was because we were both juggalos. |
As a general rule, juggalos hate rednecks "Fuck Your Rebel Flag" I find that's true of most urban conservatism. They don't self-identify with southern conservatism, but its conservatism just the same. ICP's entire writing motif is Christian mythology and anti-science/anti-education as well heavily trading on conspiracy theories and hating "the other." From my brief exposure to it, its also pretty racist. Have you ever felt uncomfortable with the views expressed by members of your group? Would you recommend becoming a juggalo to a teenager today? Do you feel that you might be a cult? | Yes, I have been uncomfortable with view expressed. I would recommend it a teenager if they feel down and out ingnored by socierty, but I would as make sure they undersand not to take it to seriously. I may feel like this was more of a cult, if we had a leader. Noone is in charge, and everyone is free to beleive as they please. |
That's weird consider most of the juggalos I've met fall under the "redneck" stereotype. | Really? Well there are redneck Juggalos, there are more Juggalo musicians that ICP. Boondox is a redneck from "Newton County, Georgia" and hes probably my favorite juggalo rapper, hes redneck as fuck, and hes one of the main juggalo acts, right up there with ICP and Twiztid. If you like you some redneck music check out "Sippin on Down" and "Cold Day in Hell". |
Huh, so it's like the Freemasons but not a club for pretentious snotballs. Huh. | Exactly, anyone can be down as long as they are cool. This is one of the advantages and the drawbacks, any idiot can shoot someone and then claim they did it "for the juggalos" and every juggalo in America puts their head in their hands and goes "what a fucking idiot, looks like I have to put all my shirts in the attic for a bit". |
Big B is also a good one if you like white trash, redneck stuff. | I have a led zeppelin shirt somewhere that he singed and his crew drew a dinosaur on the back, he opened for rehab in my redneck town. |
Whats your most exciting memory? | As a Juggalo? The Gathering there was over 30 thousand of us together, and I had been down for 8 years and some change and I had never seen more than 4 or 5 together at a time. It was also amazing because I was starting to believe the way most people believe (all juggalos are wierd looking fat kids in high school) and it was great to see that I wasnt the only juggalo out there that went to college and got a real job, I met doctors and lawyers and cops and all kinds of people there, and it completely reignited my love for my "family". |
Actually a lot of Christian screamo concerts will have mosh pits and people will help you up if you get knocked down. | Thats cool, its a sign of a decent pit when if you start to go down everyone doesnt jump you. Ive seen mosh pits end because "HEY GUYS WATCH OUT THERES A GIRL AND SHE DOESNT WANT IN ON THIS". So mutual respect is always nice, even when beating the shit out of each other. You listen to Demon Hunter? |
Yeah he was definitely sober when I met him. | Im glad hes sober, but he was may more wild when we has drinking, and I missed that, but I wouldnt want him to go back. I think its funny that people think J and Shaggy are these terrible crazy drug addicts, but Shaggy doesnt smoke weed or anything, just drink (and hes sober now), and all J does is get stoned and take his occasional percocet (which I dont think he even does anymore). |
Do you feel like most Juggalos give your community a bad name? Do you have faith that one day the Juggalos will be respected like the punk and hippie movements? I guess the Juggalos by default wouldn't be concerned about either of those things though, am I right? | I do think that alot of juggalos give us a bad name, but I also thing the media/internet love to take things out of context for ratings/upvotes, you could take any group of people and find drunken idiots screaming stupid things and make it into a clip. I dont think we will ever get the respect that even things like punk have recieved, because by our nature we take in people that noone else will take in, and give them a place to belong, and if we went mainstream like that, people would start wearing a "uniform" and having to follow "rules" the thing about being a juggalo is spread across a broad spectrum, there are raver juggalos, thug juggalos (the one the FBI hates), stoners, people with families, ect. Juggalo isnt a style, we are all encompasing, if you have love you are a juggalo. Im a huge redneck, wearing flannel and boots right now, but Im just as much a juggalo as any kid in a clown shirt and face paint (if not more). |
I respect the Juggalos but the violence bigotry and misogyny scare me, especially when it seems to be indoctrinated. I hope there is more of a respect for women than the media portrays about all of you. Woop woop. | Um... Ok.... this is the hard one to explain. The juggalo culture loves to say fucked up things about women, but its funny because usually its the ladies that scream the most fucked up things. I used to worry about the sexism untill I went to the gathering and women were the ones who loved the super sexist songs the most. Juggalos love women, alot of what we say is ment to be taken as a joke, thats the biggest thing people dont understand "bitches aint shit but hoes and tricks" is not ment to be taken seriously, and all the juggalos know that, but it tooks terrible in a sound clip when you cut out all the women screaming it. |
As far as violence, its just like horror movies, people like violence, doesnt mean we actually kill people, but sometimes your in a shit mood, and you wanna roll around blasting a song that claims you do. | |
Biogtry is absolutly NOT accepted in the juggalo community, its one of the only rules to being a juggalo. You are not allowed to hate poeple for things they cant control. ESHAM and the ROC, FOUNDED the juggalo movement (with ICP and Twiztid) and they are black. | |
Word. I'm glad the Internet had made all of you be able to come together. Do you think the Juggalo movement will ever outgrow the logistics of having a Gathering? | No way, Juggalos (I have been warned about speaking for the group) TEND to not use internet communities that much (at least not as open juggalos). At the gathering Twiztid was up on stage in front of thousands of people and screamed "HOW MANY OF YALL ARE ON FACEBOOK?" and it was silent. You have to realize with all the hate we get, its usually not even worth it to get a facebook, or join a website to look for others. I have, on Reddit, said "I think that you made the the right decision" and had people reply "FUCK YOU, YOUR A JUGGALO AND THEREFORE STUPID" (paraphrased of course). After the age of 18 (or college for some) most juggalos just keep it to themselves and secretly sneak out once a year to be with there own kind. |
When I watched 'American Juggalo' I came away deeply divided because I love the philosophy of having a readymade family wherever you go but holy shit were there some fucked up things going on in that video. Having been to a couple music festivals in my young life, I understand the idea that you get a little wilder than usual in that setting plus the juggalo aesthetic is just a little more extreme by default, but still, I cringed violently and often. As I read this AMA and read people's negative anecdotes and your responses I was pretty taken by the fact that you never disowned the juggalos in question (ala the 'no true Scotsman' fallacy) but merely suggested that they were failing to keep part of the code. It reads a little like apologism. I also can't help but feel like you, as one of the 'well adjusted' and by your own admission 'successful' juggalos, your view on it is skewed toward framing it as more of harmless side activity. SlayerScylla's responses reinforce this as she is clearly a little more extreme and I imagine she's even pretty moderate compared to what exists. So from all that rambling comes this question: What percentage of the juggalo community would you say is like you (e.g. Only listening to the music monthly, mostly sober, personally and financially successful) and what do you think we would be hearing in response to these questions from someone outside of that fraction? | Im glad you said that. I cringed in the video at the preganent lady smoking, and that was a huge controversy at the Gathering last year, wether kids should be allowed. It looks bad in the doc, but "Family with Family" tend to camp with with own (other people with kids) so they dont really interact with the loud, drunk/tripping juggalos. Its real hard to believe, I dont think anyone will understand as I say that, we were firmly against kids at the gathering when we got there, but by the time we left we realized it may be the safest place for a kid. The whole time I was there one kid got lost, and the whole place shut down until we got him back to his mom, (took like 10 minutes once word got out) and its always funny to watch people immediantly sober up, stop swearing, stand up straight, and hide there bottles/pipes as soon as a kid comes near. A fellow juggalos kid is to be treated as if were your own. Still don't really like that it happens, but I understand it more. |
I would say most juggalos are like me (by most, I mean north of 50 percent). I dont want to give the impression that I'm not a ride or die juggalo, I have 4 ICP posters and an oil painting of a clown in my living room, and my room is full of Twiztid and ABK flyers from shows, but I keep that in my house. Noone outside of my friends would ever know I was a juggalo, and I feel like most of us are like this. As an adult I meet other adult juggalos all the time that noone but a fellow juggalo would be able to out, problem is they would never admit it to an outsider, there is alot of negativity "normal" people associate with us. | |
Yeah a common interest brings people of like minds together, I understand and congrats on sobriety. | Thank you. Getting sober was hard, but staying sober had been alright. Thanks for the support. |
What got you into the music? | I had juggalo friends growing up, but once my mom died, I moved to a new town, and one day we had to come to school dressed as our heros and give a report, and a guy I used to ride around and smoke with came as Violent J and gave his report. I was really interested so I ask him, and he gave me a mix CD by ICP, and "The Green Book" by Twiztid. They blew my mind, and they apealled to my lonely, poor, society hating us, attitude I had, and they gave me hope and a family, and Ive been down ever since. |
Are all juggalos a product of inbreeding? | Nope. Would you want to fuck your sister if she was a juggalo? I think not. |
What is the most efficient ratio of fat chicks in the car to faygo in the trunk? | The more faygo, the more fat chicks. What do you call that? A positive correlation? |
Link to vimeo.com. Thoughts? | Im actually in that. One of the people screaming "Piss Yo Self" (long story) on the chopped bus (the "love train" as we call it). That was made by a non-juggalo, but he did a decent job being unbiased. If you want to watch the best juggalo documentary watch "A Family Underground" |
How did you feel when you found out your idols who promote violence against women are also creationists who are confused about magnets? Also, what do you credit more for calling yourself a jugallo. Hating your mother or hating your father? | ALSO, just for the record, they do NOT advocate violence against women. As for the theism, I just shrugged that off, thats their life not mine. |
Hey, OP, don't feed the troll. Much love for the AMA. | You would think I would know better by now. |
Isn't your whole plan to be outcasts by conforming to what ICP tells you to be? You instantly lose your individuality when you claim to be a juggelo. | That's one of those stereotypes I wanted to squash. ICP has no power over us, they don't tell us what to do. The only thing all juggalos have in common is the name. |
Do you believe in miracles? | I believe in things we cant explain yet. If your asking if I believe god did it, no. |
For a person who has no idea what a Juggalo and ICP is, can you explain in short what they are about? | Not really, but I will try. The easiest way to explain a Juggalo is that we were people who grew up poor or in a shitty situation (not all, but the vast majority) and got swept aside by society, so we figured we would get together and embrace the hate. We love to say that ICP is "the most hated band on the planet" and alot of the shirts have that on the back. We took all the hate we recieved from society and instead of turning it into destructive behavior, we turned it into love for each other. If it wasnt for juggalos, I would have become a TERRIBLE person, and would probably be in prision (thats BEST case, more than likely I would actually be dead by now). So when you see "Juggalo" spray painted under a bridge, know that that kid has at least ONE person who cares about him, and would more than likely be setting fire to houses, or something equally messed up, if he didnt. |
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